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By: Martin Sturm

Martin Sturm — Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:58:42 +0000

You’re right, I generalized Scala, Groovy, JRuby, etc. a bit too much. I’ve corrected my mistakes.

By: James Iry

James Iry — Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:12:40 +0000

Some small corrections. Calling Scala a “scripting language” is a bit debatable. It depends very much on your definition. I think of it as no more a scripting language than languages like Haskell, SML, OCaml, and F#.

Scripting language or not, it’s definitely not a “dynamic language” – or at least, no more so than Java is. Like Java, Scala is statically typed; has forays into dynamic typing via equivalents of instanceof and casting; and doesn’t support destructive dynamic metaprogramming except via the reflection API. In fact, Scala’s static type system is quite a bit more sophisticated (and sane) than Java’s. That said, some of the proposed JVM enhancements that are targeted towards dynamic languages could very well help certain areas of Scala’s runtime performance. Not because Scala is particularly dynamic, but because Scala has some constructs like structural typing that are hard to translate efficiently to the JVM.

Finally, Bill Venners isn’t a developer of the Scala language as far as I know. However, he is one of the earliest developers to use Scala, has authored a testing framework for it, and is co-author of the book “Programming In Scala.”